E135 – We have a wonderful conversation with Jamie Grumet, known for her controversial breastfeeding cover on TIME magazine, now at its 10-year anniversary. With a background in anthropology & theology, she is the author of Modern Attachment Parenting: The Comprehensive Guide to Raising a Secure Child, its introduction by Dr. Sears & foreword by Alanis Morissette. Jamie shares her insights on parenting using these methods while educating us about other cultures, adoption, breastfeeding & children self-weaning at older ages. We find out what she went through going viral in such a contentious way at a young age, and discuss the psychology of what this represents; mothers judging mothers, puritanical ideals & sexual repression. Does she regret the photo session? And we talk about what we can do to educate future generations. Our own adult attachment styles are analyzed too (secure, anxious, avoidant, etc), as we wonder how we were raised. Spoiler alert: we know a lot about each others’ childhoods. Our parents were best friends in high school, so Jamie is like our honorary little sister! We hope you enjoy this interesting discussion & support Jamie’s wonderfully inclusive & accepting book, currently sold on Amazon!
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00:00 – Introductions
03:00 – TIME magazine
05:30 – Attachment parenting (AP), Dr. Sears, attachment styles
10:45 – Forming healthy attachments
12:30 – How we were raised, co-sleeping, night doulas
19:10 – Primates, infant mortality
21:30 – Partners, monogamy
23:45 – Unable to breastfeed?
29:20 – Backlash, judgement
31:00 – Controversy, WHO, AAP recommendations
34:05 – Self-weaning, long-term psychology
36:00 – Bonding, breastfeeding, adoption
43:45 – Haters and Religion
47:30 – We’re modern, evolved; parenting give & take
50:50 – (Dream Dinners Ad)
52:30 – Sleep training, cry it out, discipline
1:01:35 – Regret TIME cover?
1:07:00 – Our parents, attachment styles
1:13:40 – Predatory marketing of formula & water
1:17:35 – Rape culture, sexual repression, hypersexuality
1:24:50 – Conclusion
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E75 – Meet Laura Haver, a life coach, writer and athlete. As a mom herself, and the creative playful talent behind Chasing Havers, she gives us practical advice on getting through these homebound, tumultuous times. We talk about distractions, mental overwhelm, and meltdowns, and learn how we can get back on the happiness track with some straightforward steps. Find out about her sanity checklist and daily hacks to help organize our chaotic lives. And take part in her fun challenge called #WeWriteTheStory2020 which through games and play, creates connection and mental shifts toward happiness. Whether you’re a parent like Mouse looking for support and structure, or feeling indecisive like Weens with interests or career, you can use what Laura offers to get you centered and onto that path forward. We’re excited for you to hear this episode and to spread positivity. It is contagious!
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E68 – Today is a little indulgent as we talk about singing talent within our family. What can I say? A proud mom, an auntie, and a grandma are all involved! You’ll hear Charlotte’s sweet little voice singing James Taylor, and a conversation with our mom, Joyce Carter, on how she came to be a music major with a full scholarship to the University of Arizona. Find out our connections with Linda Ronstadt and Bing Crosby, and hear our grandparents’ WWII love story! We finish by discussing parenting with takeaways for me to connect my kids to nature and to spend more quality time with them nurturing their talents and gifts.
At A Glance:
0:00-4:30 Los Angeles vs San Diego, back to work at The Rookie
4:30-6:02 Lexicon of sixties, fashion of twenties
7:05-10:01 Snowbirds, horses, theater camp, tucking kids in at night
10:01-11:57 Charlotte singing, Weens wants to momageer
11:57-13:14 Kids personalities, nature vs nurture, shyness
13:14-15:39 Interview with Mom: musical family in the 1950s
15:39-19:00 Childhood in Texas, church choir, in family quartet
19:00-23:05 Tucson Arizona All State Choir, University of Arizona scholarship life
23:05-26:36 The Linda Ronstadt story. Did mom miss fame by staying in school and having babies?
26:36-29:02 How to get a shy child comfortable singing
29:02-33:11 Grandma’s and Grandpa’s WWII love story
33:11-37:36 The Bing Crosby story
37:36-43:11 Parenting in digital age, back to nature, quality time, nurture talent
43:11-45:17 Conclusion and Charlotte singing James Taylor
E62 – Mouse recaps her girls’ trip wine tasting in Mexico with friends but feels guilty being gone three weekends in a row. Meet Joelle’s friends and find out if her husband is really okay with all this time away or resentful? Are the kids feeling abandoned thinking mom is selfish? How do you take female friends from acquaintances to besties and how do you keep those friendships going over the years? We go over reasons why we need our mom’s nights out and the science behind having girlfriends. We will post study references in our Show Notes. Hear the statistics on how much moms really work and how much free time they have to themselves. No wonder we need our time away! Then we read a controversial article about why some mothers don’t want girl time. Is it healthier to focus more on your husband or is it codependency? Joelle feels judged by this “blessed” woman who shoulds her, but maybe it’s insecurity and she needs to hear it? Weens does a great job giving advice as a non-mom and talks kids’ independence, giving up some control, and raises the future question of how much you should talk dirty in front of your kids. This is a good one for all of us striving to get balance with parenting anxiety. Please take a listen and rate/review on Apple Podcasts to let us know what you think! Thank you!
E42 – It’s Superbowl Sunday and raining gophers in Southern California! As we catch up on mom life and work life, we realize we want to switch roles a la Freaky Friday. Weens wants the excitement of kids, and Mouse wants a vacation from all the juggling. We discuss the transition from stay at home mom to getting back into the work force, finding purpose in your job, both paid and volunteer, and how to draw the line between the giving of and charging for your time. Mouse struggles with drawing the line on social media on her phone in front of the kids too, and Weens explains simplifying her life. We get sidetracked by Bert and Ernie, Carol Channing, and then reminisce about our boobies first growing, first tampons, and our PE teacher/actor dad playing sports with us after school while rehearsing scenes. Again, another Henson sidetrack gets us talking about Sesame Street and exposure to races and nationalities growing up in predominantly white suburbs. We end hearing a very spiritual dream that Mouse had about the afterlife, a possible message from dad, and a utopian society which reminds Weens of an Albert Brooks movie and some near-death experiences she has studied. Alan Alda also pops in at the end to give sage advice. We hope you enjoy this funny but serious, light but meaningful episode!
E27 – Mouse explains her family’s Jewish side – the non bar mitzvah birthday campout and the non bris bris. Is 13 a man? Technology, coddling, and helicopter parenting might be to blame. Free range parenting is getting pushback in Mouse’s community probably because of the past small town murders. We talk crime and burglaries, and Weens tells her stolen bike story, ending with a flurry of 80s George confusion! We remember a family camping trip and get into why men on our dad’s side are solitary – artsy Grizzly Adams or anxiety? Weens tells another hilarious work story, we do some car talk, and get into shame cleaning. Mouse knows new moms are notorious for this! Mouse is balancing her mini midlife crisis needing to go out and party, with working in the school garden, and we give props to all the teachers out there taking care of our kids. Please tell your friends about us. We would love some word of mouth support! www.MouseAndWeens.com
Music credit: “Balzoo” by Weens
E21 – Puberty, BO and penis, oh my. Mouse’s kids are going through sex ed in their health classes so we hear what they have to say. The twelve year old also talks about a transgender student and Mouse relates community concerns. We recall our own sex ed schooling and compare memories and PMS patterns. Join in to discuss parent porn fears and how you learned where babies come from.
E15 – We interview our mom about her personal Garry Shandling story after we watched the Judd Apatow documentary “The Zen Diaries of Garry Shandling”. The story leads to our dads history as a football player who went from the University of Arizona to the New York Jets to the New England Patriots in the 1970’s. Our mom tells the story of their relationship and gives her feelings on our dad’s motivations and struggles. By our final discussion we end up seeing a lot of parallels between Garry Shandling and our father, who also went into the entertainment industry. Weens shares her thoughts on acting achievement and self-sabotage. It’s another episode to get to know us and our family This is us folks! We are being ourselves and we hope you gain something from it too. Music is “Palmetto Bug Stomp” written by Weens performed by Angelo Moore. Connect with us at email@example.com
E14 – Get to know our seriouser side, even though that’s not a word. Weens commutes home through LA while Mouse deals with mom guilt and effing up her kids. We wonder if our life paths were set as kids – baby Weens as a creative writer, and baby Mouse as a caretaker. We hit the hot, hot topics of weather, traffic, and road raging in teeny vehicles, then delve into Southern California wildfires and a little more self-analysis just to lighten things up. What do you do when friends and family show their political colors. Weens talks about seeing life through an actor’s eyes, a writer’s eyes, or from a give-no-effs perspective. We discuss friendships ending over Facebook fights, and when to be right or when to be kind. And we end on the light, light subject of what is the purpose of life. Song credits “Song for the Psycho” by Weens. Enjoy our deep thoughts and please reach out with yours too. We’d love to hear from you at firstname.lastname@example.org
Ep5 – Weens confesses to stealing Mouse’s stuff. We discuss odd celebrity crushes, stalking 90’s celebrities, life dreams, foot anti-fetishes, pheromones, body parts, the real definition of a barker, David Bowie and his musicians, and more fun stuff! This episode is archived and only available on www.patreon.com/mouseandweens Thank you for supporting our podcast!